Sunday, October 29, 2006

LITURGICAL MUSIC MEME

From Gavin at Laudamus Te and the folks at Cantate Deo.

1. Favorite Setting: Ordinary of the Mass
Both of these are in English, and both published by GIA (surprise, surprise) - Performance wise: Lyric Liturgy by C. Alexander Peloquin / Congregation (so-called FCAP) wise: A Community Mass by Richard Proulx (side note: I said "both published by GIA". You didn't think I was going to say Mass of Creation or Mass of Light, did ya?)

2. Favorite Setting: Proper of the Mass
Puer natus est nobis (Mode VII), the Introit for Christmas/Mass during the Day

3. Favorite Polyphonic Motet
That's easy. Ave Maria by Thomas Luis de Victoria (hands down)

4. Favorite Hymn
There are so many good ones out there. I have to say almost anything in Worship II or the 1976 edition We Celebrate

5. Favorite Marian Piece
Ave Maria by Thomas Luis de Victoria or Regina Caeli by Antonio Lotti

6. Favorite Liturgical Season
Ordinary Time - just kidding. Seriously: Holy Week, Holy Thursday in particular.

7. Favorite Composer of Sacred Music
Alexander Peloquin (American) / Ralph Vaughan Williams (British)

8. Worst Church Music Annoyance
Here's my top three:
1. Hymns that violate the Church's teachings and/or seem to worships the worshipper instead of worshipping the Lord,
2. Sung Mass Ordinary that violates the Roman Missal (examples: Jesus, Lamb of God, Hosanna, hosanna on high)
3. The ever infamous reference to the Entrance hymn/chant as "Our Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaathering Song..."

9. If I could be in any performing ensemble in the world, what would it be?
Good question. Some really good ensembles out there. Not enough time for even one (outside my parish). If I had to pick one, I'd go with the local Pro Cantare, directed by my friend and mentor Reuel Gifford.

10. One prediction for Catholic liturgical music in 10 years
It's getting better - slowly but surely. Rome's cracking down (little by little). Pope Benedict XVI is 79, but he's showing no signs of dying anytime soon. This is a GOOD thing. His cabinet is forming quite nicely. Cardinal Arinze is B-16's right hand man in all matters liturgical. Also a GOOD thing.

11. OK, make up a question for all future posters to answer, and answer it!
-- Name one contemporary piece (intended for use with piano or guitar) that you actually don't mind using.
Dan Schutte's Christ, Circle 'Round Us. Text is from the "O" Antiphons, while the tune is an adaptation (albeit abridged) of the Mode V Salve Regina.

Tag, you're it!
Anyone who reads this.

Peace,
BMP

10 comments:

Gavin said...

I never really am sure what to say when I have to announce, whether it's an "Entrance Hymn" or "Opening Hymn" or occasionally I'll say "Processional Hymn". I suppose I should make up my mind. Processional hymn sounds nice, but it's long. Entrance is fine, but too utilitarian. And then Opening has a drama-type ring to it.

As far as contemporary songs, I wouldn't mind using them in slight moderation. Even Gather Us In would be alright once every two years (NO more often than that). Some of them are just fun to play on the piano. Still, I prefer my current situation of banning them entirely.

And getting rid of Pentecost and Epiphany as seasons was a BAD idea. "Ordinary Time" is soo... ORDINARY! I want to know the reasoning behind that.

Brian Michael Page said...

Best way to settle it, Gavin, is to do what I used to do when I had to announce (I stopped in April):
"Please stand and join in singing hymn number.... (title), spell number (e.g., three-five-four)". No "entrance", "introit", etc.

GIRM (today's US version) calls it the "entrance chant", probably the closest of the common opening hymn terms to "cantus introitus".

I've used "Gather Us In" twice in my 25 year career. Even in the most progressive parishes I've worked with, the response from the people with GUI was really crappy. I too have fun with it, but using the tune and trying to sing the parodies at the Moratorium site.

Peace,
BMP

Charles said...

1. Favorite Setting: Ordinary of the Mass
Esoteric: Missa Papa Marcelli (G Pierluigi da Palestrina)
Liturgical: Tie: Missa Oecumenica (Proulx)/Holy Family (Schiavone)

2. Favorite Setting: Proper of the Mass
Puer natus est nobis (Mode VII), the Introit for Christmas/Mass during the Day

3. Favorite (easy and achieveable) Polyphonic Motet
Another tie: Dixit Maria (Hassler) and Sicut Cervus pars prima (Palestrina)

4. Favorite Hymn
No doubt: Thaxted (Holst) O GOD BEYOND ALL PRAISING

5. Favorite Marian Piece
Ave Maria by Franz Biebl (centenary of his death)

6. Favorite Liturgical Season
Ditto to Passion Sunday/Triduum (and Holy Thursday ditto big time)

7. Favorite Composer of Sacred Music
All those inspired by their own true faith. Down to it, quill fight at the O.K. Corrall time? Mozart facing JSBach.

8. Worst Church Music Annoyance
Stagnation, intolerance, poseurs, and attitudes that scream “I’m authentic, you’re not” or “whatever I sing is all right, ‘cause I sing fer Jesus.”

9. If I could be in any performing ensemble in the world, what would it be?
Dale Warland Singers; Tallis Scholars, The Sixteen, Chanticleer

10. One prediction for Catholic liturgical music in 10 years
Carey Landry songs will finally be gone; most of the second tier SLJ stuff as well (such as Blest Be the Lord…Sing to the Ceiling, sing to the floor…) Hymn singing as in traditional with the organ coming back in a major way; More contemporary settings of Latin texts that are congregation-friendly (Berthier, Manalo-like stuff.)

11. OK, make up a question for all future posters to answer, and answer it!
-- Name one contemporary piece (intended for use with piano or guitar) that you actually don't mind using.
Ditto to Dan Schutte's Christ, Circle 'Round Us. Also WHERE TWO OR THREE ARE GATHERED by M.D. Ridge

Michael said...

1. Favorite Setting: Ordinary of the Mass
The English ordinaries composed by Theodore Marier, used every week at St. Paul's, Cambridge, MA.

2. Favorite Setting: Proper of the Mass
Easter Sunday, of course! "Haec Dies" especially.

3. Favorite Polyphonic Motet
William Byrd "Ave Verum"

4. Favorite Hymn
"All My Hope on God is Founded" (Tune: MICHAEL, Herbert Howells)

5. Favorite Marian Piece
Hymne a la Vierge, Pierre Villette

6. Favorite Liturgical Season
Holy Week

7. Favorite Composer of Sacred Music
Theodore Marier

8. Worst Church Music Annoyance
Microphones.

9. If I could be in any performing ensemble in the world, what would it be?
Church of the Advent choir in Boston -- unfortunately, I'm not an Anglo-Catholic. Besides, I have to make a living on Sunday mornings.

10. One prediction for Catholic liturgical music in 10 years
The big bad publishers (OCP, GIA, etc.), the liturgists, and the "lavender mafia" in the seminaries and chanceries of the US will all squash the return of Gregorian Chant. Catholic Church music will continue to be bad everywhere, and you will continue to be considered unreasonable if you think things like Haagen-Haas and St. Louis Jesuits music should NEVER be played in church, period.

11. Name one contemporary piece (intended for use with piano or guitar) that you actually don't mind using.
I had to get my copy of GATHER REPREHENSIVE to come up with one. Nothing came immediately to mind.
I must say, something does move me when I hear a good choir sing John Bell's "A Touching Place" (#640 in G. Rep.)

12. Plan your funeral music. (Money is no object, and you have a cooperative priest.)
Processional: Requiem aeternam (chant)
Psalm: Ps. 63 (Theodore Marier)
Gospel Accl: Any Marier alleluia, probably #92.
Offertory: Faire is the Heaven (Harris)
Sanctus: XVIII
Mem Acc: My setting of "Dying you destroyed our death" set to Victimae Paschalis
Amen: Just one simple chanted amen.
Agnus: XVIII
Communion: Pie Jesu from Durufle Requiem
Song of Farewell: Saints of God (Marier)
Recessional: In Paradisum from Durufle Requiem

13. OK, make up a question for all future posters to answer, and answer it!
Tag, you're it!

PhiMuAlpha2681 said...

1) Community Mass - Proulx

2) The "Exsultet"

3) TBA

4) O God beyond All Praising / THAXTED and The Church's One Foundation / AURELIA

5) Biebl "Ave Maria"

6) Advent

7) Stanford, Farrant, Parry, Rutter, Willcocks

8) overly syncopated hymn melodies that are difficult for musicians to sing, much less John Q. Pewsitter with no musical training

9) The Cambridge Singers

10) The hippies will continue to die out, and the 20-somethings will continue to search for authentic worship rather than "happy clappy"

11) Unless a Grain of Wheat - Farrell, My Soul in Stillness Waits - Haugen

12) TBA, off to practice before the first All Saints Mass.

~nb

CastCantor said...

1. Favorite Setting: Ordinary of the Mass
A Community Mass by Richard Proulx

2. Favorite Setting: Proper of the Mass
I'm thinking, I'm thinking.

3. Favorite Polyphonic Motet
Christus Factus Est, Bruckner

4. Favorite Hymn
Come Holy Ghost or Praise To The Lord, The Almighty . . or O God Beyond All Praising!! I can't give up the 4 squares and lose them.

5. Favorite Marian Piece
We did FIVE Ave Marias this past Sunday: Chant, Victoria, B.G., Schubert and Caccini. But my favorite is Bruckner.

6. Favorite Liturgical Season
I love Holy Thursday and Ash Wednesday.

7. Favorite Composer of Sacred Music
Bruckner, Mozart, Bach!

8. Worst Church Music Annoyance
Any kind of music or performance that elicits applause

9. If I could be in any performing ensemble in the world, what would it be?
The Anonymous 4 (or Trio Medieval)

10. One prediction for Catholic liturgical music in 10 years:
It will improve, but change will come SLOWLY and the folkies are not done yet.

11. Name one contemporary piece (intended for use with piano or guitar) that you actually don't mind using.
"Take My Hand, Precious Lord."

12. Plan your funeral music.
Stick all the movements from the Faure Requiem in there. Add chant. Mix well. For Psalm: The Allegri Miserere!!
(I live in a small town and know it will be difficult for anyone to get things together in a few days, so, if I shuffle off early or quickly or even if I don't, I would like to have a simple funeral Mass, but would like to have a memorial vespers with lots of motets a year after my death, or on my birthday or feast day.)

Charles said...

PRECIOUS LORD, contemporary?
In light years maybe.;-)

Cantor said...

BMP - Be careful, there’s some really goofy stuff in Worship II!

(“He’s baaaaack in the land of the living, the man we decided to KILL!”)

Brian Michael Page said...

Worse, Cantor. There's this one, from Sydney Carter's "No Use Knocking":

Jesus Christ has gone to heaven;
One day he'll be coming back, sir.
In this house he will be welcome,
But we hope he won't be black, sir.


BMP

CastCantor said...

Precious Lord is contemporary . . . to a Palestrina lover. ;)